Rea Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Its very long so I haven't read it yet...https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/elizabeth-truss-speaks-about-early-years-teachers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueJ Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I lost the will to live after a few lines and decided to stop - it was either that or slit my throat which I thought I would save until the end of the Easter hols :angry: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Thanks for adding Rea :1b I did read it all - nothing surprised me........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 i do feel a bit bashed this week what with ofsted moaning and truss having a dig (let alone all the other issues that go on) two of our local settings have been put on special measures, i'm having arguments about rent and here's old Truss chops telling me i'm rubbish cos im not a qualified teacher (despite being an outstanding setting) and that i have to link up with the schools which have no early years knowledge (now don't shout i'm not talking about all of you!). I do not have an early years teacher qualification...nor am i likely to go and get one at the salary i get paid. Most of our local settings do not have the space to put in a nursery at present (in fact they don;t have enough school places) . The whole argument just seems ill informed and wrong...but it's been a long day and i'm tired . Have just spent my day with parents chatting about their children's development and how they can help them at home...but then i'm not qualified to do that!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlettangel Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I haven't read the article yet but I too feel bashed about! Why is everything the fault of early years? Where is their no mention of the parents responsibility in their child's upbringing? I am SO ready for the holidays...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrower Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) No, there aren't any surprises, but it still makes my blood boil! Does it not occur to her that families themselves (not the children obviously!) might take some responsibility for children being so "behind"? In fact "behind" is just where I'd like to kick Truss! Edited April 7, 2014 by Stargrower 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yes Ms Truss… I work in a school nursery and already work way beyond these hours (8-6) obviously that's not long enough for you ggrrrrrrrrrrr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 come on ladies and gents, we all know that "school " must be best for our two years olds. obviously with an extended 8 to 6 day, with a qualified teacher( and "assistants" as she calls them) with parents picking individual patterns of attendance, in the large and obviously underutilised classrooms...... the woman is BONKERS!!! I just thank goodness that my children are much older and have escaped this madness.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayw Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Why did the government ask Dame Tickell and Prof. Cathy Nutbrown to conduct their enquiries and produce recommendations that they now appear to have no intention of implementing. And Who is Ms Truss/Mr Willshaw listening to that has such persuasive and warped ideas of how children should become 'ready for school'? It certainly doesn't seem to be the people who actually work with children 0-5yrs and who know that a 2 year old can't stay still for more than a few seconds most of the time (and finds the tap in the hand basin really good fun to turn on and splash about getting soaking wet - god forbid that they are learning about action/reaction, rate of flow, concepts of full/empty/fast/slow etc.) let alone the 3 or 4 year old who has a disfunctional home life and for whom pre-school/nursery is a haven of calm acceptance for whatever has happened before they arrive (a staff member who has time to judge the child's mood, respond positively and offer distractions to negative emotions). Working with our very youngest children is a rare priviledge that few adults really experience and understand. Seeing children try something new and see/experience the excitment and wonder the new fact/discovery can bring to them should be celebrated not dismissed as not being 'ready for school'. What sort of young people will we have in 10 or more years time and how will the school results be viewed - Oh hang on, I know - it will be the fault of the early years sector, who didn't let them play or understand that learning can be fun and interesting! Ms Truss I hope you are still the minister for Education when these precious young children finish their school life with no enjoyment of learning or ability to be fully functioning adults who need to take calculated risks, are emotionally secure and can have meaningful loving relationships. and if you are not a minister I wonder how you will feel when you need to be cared for in a Older persons residential home by people who can't function or engage in conversation because they were too busy being 'ready for school' instead of learning how to respond emotionally, physically and intellectually. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WChurchill Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 What happened to schools being ready for children and not children ready for school!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 a small part of me imagines that we all close and leave 'school' to get on with it and see how they cope - because I truly don't think they could - it's like history repeating itself in bad judgements Our LA built Children's centres on PVI doorsteps and inevitable the nursery's closed. Roll forward a short time and the CC were pulling back their services and calling on the private sector to meet government expectation on provision etc - short memories methinks It may be me feeling grumpy about life in the sector at the mo but I couldn't help reading into Wilshaws argument that he is putting in parents minds that 'school' is the be all and end all for their (two yr old) children and running our reputations in this sector down - but it may just be me dreaming up conspiracy theories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 What happened to schools being ready for children and not children ready for school!!!!! well said!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony1985 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 What makes me angry is that they don't acknowledge that majority of settings ARE reaching the targets and ARE supporting their children to be prepared for school. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I do not have an early years teacher qualification...nor am i likely to go and get one at the salary i get paid. I'm hoping that at least one of your practitioners will, though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony1985 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Just read her speech and the bit about the 14 grand for employers who get a graduate to go for EYT stood out for me. What about those providers who already have an EYP/EYT in their setting? Where's the support to help PVI settings pay them a decent wage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Just read her speech and the bit about the 14 grand for employers who get a graduate to go for EYT stood out for me. Wow! I'd read somewhere else that it was £7K! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyR Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I thought this perspective from a parent was a very good read...... http://www.singlemotherahoy.com/2014/04/do-we-expect-too-much-of-nurseries-and.html?spref=fb&m=1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Thanks Nicky :1b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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