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Ariel
Hi,
I have spoken to my local university today who have informed me that I am able to do the course and will get full funding and supply cover etc (am FS coordinator and reception teacher in a maintained school). Problem is I have to apply next week as the course starts at end of Jan. Would anyone be kind enough to share the kind of info they put into their further info section of the application form? It does say that you can discuss this section with a tutor before completion however I don't think there's time for that now. If anyone has any ideas I would be very grateful. Thanks.
Sue R
Hi mookie,

Sorry I have no useful advice to offer, but I'm sure there are others out there who have!! Thus I have boosted your post!!

Sue biggrin.gif
blossom
Hello

I am confused I asked around- am also F Stage Co-ordinator, and was told that I really didn't need to do this, as I am a Qualified Teacher. Should I?

Confused blink.gif
kermit21
Sorry not much help Mookie but have found a FAQ link that might help you
http://www.cwdcouncil.org.uk/qualifications/faq.asp#Quals
Ariel
There is no requirement for you to do this - it is only practitioners who work in the PVI and childrens' centres who will require this qualification (form 2010/2012?) however I would like to keep my options open in terms of my next career move so feel it would be a good move. Plus it is only going to take 6 months! As QTS and FS coordinator I feel confident in my knowledge of the curriculum from 3 - 11 however I have no experience from 0-3 therefore by doing this I am furthering my own KS and U and also keeping my options open. However it does depend on which area you are in as if the demand for this status is high in your area then the universities don't seem to be accepting people from maintained schools. This isn't the case in my area, they are accepting QTS and state that we will get full funding.

Anyone who can help with my application form??
Would really appreciate it!
Sue R
Mookie, am now seeing the bigger picture - this is something qualification specific?

Sue
Marion
This qualification won't be needed by those working in state schools until 2015 so really its up to the individual. It will be the equivalent of QTS.

"While recognising the diversity of the early years workforce the CWDC believes that

practitioners with early years professional status should be in all children’s centres offering childcare by 2010, and in every full day care setting by 2015

The CWDC and its partners propose that this role should be supported by a set of national standards set at graduate level (Level 6) which covers work with children from birth to the end of the Early Years Foundation Stage. Those who demonstrate these standards would be awarded early years professional status (EYPS) which would be equivalent in level to qualified teacher status (QTS). We believe that, over time, only those who have achieved these and been awarded EYPS should lead the delivery of the new Foundation Stage."


I was offered a place by my local university to start in January by the 'quick' validation route but have decided not to at this point.
Ariel
The section is titled 'Further information' and says: 'Please state her your reasons to pursue the scourse. Give details of any other relevant skills, such as IT and research methods. Indicate any ohter achievemnts or experience that will support your application'.
Maybe it's just me but that seems so wide open I feel I could write for hourse but only allowed one side of A4. Any help as to what types of things to include would be great.
Thanks for your message Sue - tried to PM you back but not sure it's gone through!
Sue R
It has - you should have a reply!!

Sue
Helen
Hi Mookie,
I've just started the EYPS at Brighton University (see newest members' article!)
There were many candidates who, like you, were expecting to take the 6 month route, and, like you, had little or no experience with the Birth to Three curriculum. Therefore, their "gap" in the Standards would lead to a requirement to do a short placement in a babyroom in a daycare setting, for example.

As the status is all about leading the FS, I'd include any supporting evidence along the lines of training you may have given, or some other support to your colleagues or perhaps students on placement. Have you done any work with parents and carers along the lines of "how you can help your child at home"?

Also, include any contact with outside agencies, eg health visitors, paediatricians, advisory teachers, speech therapists, ed psychs. There is a distinct emphasis on multi-agency working, particularly if you think you might go for a job in a Children's Centre in the future.

Finally, I'd advise you to read through the 39 standards (again!!) and tailor your application to cover as many of them as you can. Try and think of exmaples in your past and present work that would give evidence of achieving each standard.

Hope this helps smile.gif
Butternut
[quote name='Marion' date='Jan 15 2007, 19:51' post='79102']
This qualification won't be needed by those working in state schools until 2015 so really its up to the individual. It will be the equivalent of QTS.

Just a note to say I spoke to someone at CWDC yesterday and they are still trying to decide equivalency or not!!

I have begun the EYPS and have my gateway review (needs assessment) next week. I am absolutely and utterly dreading it.

I am worried that they will be out to trip me up re things I don't know....and because I have identified them in the written review I am even more nervous!!

I am worried that I will get ultra nervous in the actor interview. Its just not the same as real life! We were told the real situation would be worse than the one we practised.

The group task doesn't worry me though, nor does the writing task although I think it is very unfair that when you only have 7 mins allocated to each memo that you get marked on grammar and spelling and should really write "I would" on every sentence sad.gif It's a lot to ask in 7 mins - I know I will just be frantically writing and it will end up as bullet points! Again we were told the real ones would be worse than the ones we practised.

Heeeeellllllllppppppppppppppp!!

I am fully expecting to have to do longer as a result sad.gif
It's all very very scary sad.gif((
Carolyn C
My advice on the written tasks (having done mine in Oct/Nov) is to read all of them through before you write anything and do the most difficult, convoluted ones first! I didn't do this and regretted it when I came to No 5 out of 6 with less than 10 minutes left and it was a stinker!
I am sure it will be OK. I didn't feel they were out to trip me up, just to help me see where my strengths and weaknesses were.
Carolyn
Susan
Hi Butternut and welcome,

hope all goes well and it is not as bad as you fear!
hali
hello and welcome buttercup good luck smile.gif
Gezabel
Hi Butternut biggrin.gif
A warm welcome from me too and fingers crossed for you and sure it will all be fine biggrin.gif
Helen
Welcome to the site, Butternut smile.gif
I'm doing the same as you, in Brighton, and have my formative review on Monday. We had a practice at the actor role-play stuff today. I've never had to pretend to be a seventeen year old boy before!
I'm not convinced that the emphasis on timing of written responses is going to show what we can do or what we know. Any significant incident at a setting we would need to consider before acting, so why do they want answers written down so quickly? Of course, things are going to be missed out. If we had more time to make a considered judgement, and list some actions, it would make more sense, wouldn't it?
Butternut
Thanks Carolyn, Susan, Hali and Geraldine (who is the one guilty for dragging me onto here!!) for your warm welcome!

Its good to know they are looking for strengths and weaknesses. I have asked a few times if they will take you off the course if you fail and have been reassured it would just mean that it would just take a bit longer until they booked setting visit...but someone I know at a different provider got taken off completely and put onto a different route which panicked me.

QUOTE(Helen @ Jan 26 2007, 17:37) [snapback]80342[/snapback]
Welcome to the site, Butternut smile.gif
I'm doing the same as you, in Brighton, and have my formative review on Monday. We had a practice at the actor role-play stuff today. I've never had to pretend to be a seventeen year old boy before!
I'm not convinced that the emphasis on timing of written responses is going to show what we can do or what we know. Any significant incident at a setting we would need to consider before acting, so why do they want answers written down so quickly? Of course, things are going to be missed out. If we had more time to make a considered judgement, and list some actions, it would make more sense, wouldn't it?


Hi Helen,
In some ways I am glad that the answers aren't too considered...it probably will suit me better. However its going to be a challenge to write full sentences under pressure. I was worried by the fact we were told both the role play and the memos will be harder on the day!!!
EEEKKK!!
Good luck on Monday. I am on Tuesday...but apparently we all get the same across the country!!
Linda McDowell
I am concerned that some people feel that this is a qualification-as I understand it it is a status "Early Years Professional Status" EYPS. Therefore it is not a qualification and that is why you need a degree in order to undertake the course.
Please would someone correct me if I am wrong?
Linda
hali
those are my thoughts also Linda wink.gif
Nicola Gray
I am going to my first introductory meeting at Kingston on Monday - still unsure as to whether I want to do it or not and I am hoping this will help me decide one way or another. I don;t feel the timing is right at the moment but I like to live on the edge......... judging by what everyone has written here I am beginning to lose confidence in my ability already
Nikki
Butternut
QUOTE(Nicola Gray @ Jan 26 2007, 22:46) [snapback]80390[/snapback]
I am going to my first introductory meeting at Kingston on Monday - still unsure as to whether I want to do it or not and I am hoping this will help me decide one way or another. I don;t feel the timing is right at the moment but I like to live on the edge......... judging by what everyone has written here I am beginning to lose confidence in my ability already
Nikki



Go and see how you get on. My first session was the biggest emotional rollercoaster of my life. One minute I felt confident, the next on the floor....but I left feeling more hopefully. The second session was much better and I am pretty laid back about this all now. If I can get the EYPS asap then cool and if it takes longer then so be it.
Good luck and if you want to chat then feel free to get in touch.
Shelley1
You're right Linda.
Butternut
I have just got back from my Gateway review (Needs assessment).

The memos went well. The group exercise went well. The actor bit went much better than I thought. However the personal interview went really really badly sad.gif(

I thought that my personal interview would be the best bit - a chance to speak about myself and my work and emphasize the positives and what a good job I thought I was doing and to give examples.....I thought wrong sad.gif

I am not happy......
Nicola Gray
Poor you, that doesn't sound right - surely as reflective practitioners we need to be honest with ourselves as you say, we know where we need to improve and we should then be given the opportunity to look at this area and identify how we will do these things surely. Isn't this what Kolb tells us to do - it sounded horrid but I am sure you have done ok and maybe part of the exercise was to put you under a bit of pressure to see how you coped and you obviously did so I wouldn't worry too much - just didn't sound that pleasant an experience. I think it would be very unnerving and as Helen said in the majority of instances we would generally sit on something for a short while before diving in.
There are obviously times when parents start ranting and raving but my argument would be that perhaps we had not done our job properly in the first place if this were to happen and the situation shold have been diffused before it reached this stage. Have you spoken to your tutor/mentor about this yet and say how you felt. Whatsmore its imposssible for anyone to take anything down verbatim unless you are a court scribe and of course the emphasis will be lost in certain areas. Perhaps they ought to record it so that it can be reflected on by both parties!!

I had a good introductory day - not at all like I thought it would be - I felt the best way to describe it was a personal accreditation. Felt relatively comfortable with most of the things they put forward (not put off yet) but some of the others who were not working with the 0-5's found some of the areas difficult to cover, e.g. preparation of policies, involvement of training in some areas and leading on some areas as although some of them had lead roles, often they worked within the guidelines given to them and were not able to input or disseminate their points of view.
So I am going along with it for the time being to see how it goes and I find out a bit more about how much time it will take and additional work I will need to do - if it is unmanageable then I will have to reconsider. Keep me posted
All the best
Nikki
Helen
So sorry you had a grim time, Butrernut. I think the assessors vary tremendously; mine was fine, and I felt that I could talk at length about my strengths and the areas I had identified that need brushing up on. She did say that she thought my gap was 0-3 MONTHS smile.gif So I guess I'll have to sit in on some midwife visits maybe....the nursery I worked in only took babies from 3 months, and I hadn't realised that birth to five really means birth!!

I was surprised that we had to sign a secrecy document, which means therefore that we won't be able to discuss any content on here....although one lecturer said that the whole kit will probably be available on ebay in the near future biggrin.gif If there were many different scenarios for candidates to consider, or different ones for each cohort, then discussing the content wouldn't be an issue. At the moment, it's a bit like knowing what's going to be on the GCSE paper!!

Did you complete a feedback form about the Gateway review? Did you feel able to voice your feelings or were you worried about putting them down on paper?
Carolyn C
I am so sorry the personal interview was such a negative experience for you. But at least the other parts went well. It may console you to know that (at least for those of us who did the validation route last term) we really weren't too sure what the needs assessment day was supposed to be for as it didn't seem to count for anything afterwards other than to point us where we needed to fill gaps. It was then up to us to make sure we filled those gaps somehow. So I wouldn't worry too much that it didn't go as well as you hoped. Do you have some ideas of how you can fill the gaps that were identified? That's the important thing. At your next training day you will be moving on from there to putting together your evidence and written tasks etc.
Carolyn
Butternut
QUOTE(Nicola Gray @ Jan 30 2007, 19:21) [snapback]80749[/snapback]
>it sounded horrid but I am sure you have done ok and maybe part of the exercise was to put you under a bit of pressure to see how you coped and you obviously did so I wouldn't worry too much - just didn't sound that pleasant an experience.

It was the only part that was horrid.....but I don't think it was about pressure..

>Perhaps they ought to record it so that it can be reflected on by both parties!!

They aren't allowed to because apparently a recording can be changed!! Don't ask me how! And yet a written record can't be!


>I had a good introductory day - not at all like I thought it would be - I felt the best way to describe it was a personal accreditation. Felt relatively comfortable with most of the things they put forward (not put off yet) but some of the others who were not working with the 0-5's found some of the areas difficult to cover, e.g. preparation of policies, involvement of training in some areas and leading on some areas as although some of them had lead roles, often they worked within the guidelines given to them and were not able to input or disseminate their points of view.

Well done....I really hope it goes well for you. I keep bearing in mind that this is a course designed for people to manage a nursery - and the course does keep coming back to this. However they have huge differences of experience amongst all participants and in some ways they need to ensure the umbrella covers everyone without losing the value of the status.


>So I am going along with it for the time being to see how it goes and I find out a bit more about how much time it will take and additional work I will need to do - if it is unmanageable then I will have to reconsider.

Go for it. Which route are you doing? I must admit we have been thrown things thick and fast and I have had a couple of late nights because work has been requested earlier than originally stated. But I will see what happens next.....

Keep me posted
All the best
Nikki

I will ...and you too. I hope it goes better for you than it is for me. It's been a non stop series of problems so far......and I am sure it won't get any easier from here....



QUOTE(Helen @ Jan 30 2007, 20:37) [snapback]80761[/snapback]
>>So sorry you had a grim time, Butrernut. I think the assessors vary tremendously; mine was fine, and I felt that I could talk at length about my strengths and the areas I had identified that need brushing up on. She did say that she thought my gap was 0-3 MONTHS smile.gif So I guess I'll have to sit in on some midwife visits maybe....the nursery I worked in only took babies from 3 months, and I hadn't realised that birth to five really means birth!!

Lucky you smile.gif I wish I had had an experience like that. I expected it to be much fairer if that makes sense. Like you say - strengths and weaknesses and identifying areas I hadn't already identified.

It's funny that you have been told to get 0-3 experience, because some of my group were told that as long as they had experience with say a 2 and a half year old then that would be good enough!!! It isn't easy to find 0-3 month olds!!!

How do you feel you did all round? Any idea when the feedback forms arrive? I don't know if I dare open mine.....



QUOTE(Carolyn C @ Jan 30 2007, 20:44) [snapback]80763[/snapback]
>But at least the other parts went well.

They did....I feel ok about those.

>It may console you to know that (at least for those of us who did the validation route last term) we really weren't too sure what the needs assessment day was supposed to be for as it didn't seem to count for anything afterwards other than to point us where we needed to fill gaps. It was then up to us to make sure we filled those gaps somehow. So I wouldn't worry too much that it didn't go as well as you hoped. Do you have some ideas of how you can fill the gaps that were identified? That's the important thing. At your next training day you will be moving on from there to putting together your evidence and written tasks etc.

I guess we do know more about the whole process than you did and we can use 3 years worth of experience - PHEW!! smile.gif
Skinbo81
Hi, im a reception teacher and am in my 4th year. Im totally confused over where i stand with the EYPS! blink.gif to quote from Marions entry:

"We believe that, over time, only those who have achieved these and been awarded EYPS should lead the delivery of the new Foundation Stage."

Does this therefore mean that i have got to do the EYPS to still teach in reception??? i know its a long way off, but if, as it seems above, anyone leading FS needs EYPS, what was the point of me (and many others) doing 4 years of teaching training and racking up massive debts, only to have to do another course!

i might have got it all wrong, Please someone help! sad.gif

Elxx
Shelley1
One of the lady's assessing me for my Gateway was partially deaf, and kept asking me to speak up, which I couldn't do because I had a bad throat!!!
Marion
QUOTE(Skinbo81 @ Feb 3 2007, 17:25) [snapback]81243[/snapback]
Hi, im a reception teacher and am in my 4th year. Im totally confused over where i stand with the EYPS! blink.gif to quote from Marions entry:

"We believe that, over time, only those who have achieved these and been awarded EYPS should lead the delivery of the new Foundation Stage."

Does this therefore mean that i have got to do the EYPS to still teach in reception??? i know its a long way off, but if, as it seems above, anyone leading FS needs EYPS, what was the point of me (and many others) doing 4 years of teaching training and racking up massive debts, only to have to do another course!

i might have got it all wrong, Please someone help! sad.gif

Elxx



Hi El
I think there is still a great deal of confusion and from experience I would say things will change many times before 2015 rolleyes.gif
My reading of it is that you will still be able to teach in FS/reception but to be a FS co ordinator or equivalent you will need EYFS (but I could be wrong unsure.gif )
natduncan
Hi all

I have been reading your forum, as some one who has just recieved my letter tosay I have passed my EYPS please don't be so hard on yourselves - I was honest on my personal interview and never thought I would get through it - I set myself an action plan to plug the gap I thought I needed and was positive at the day assessment - one word of dvice make sure your witnesses know your practice!!

Natalie
Shelley1
natduncan - who did you have as your witnesses?
natduncan
Hi Shelley

My witnesses were the headteacher, leadplayworker who I liase with for smooth transition from preschool to school (I am also mentoring for her EY foundation degree), colleague at school who I am mentoring through HLTA and a parent

Natalie
hali
well done biggrin.gif wink.gif
Butternut
Very well done Natalie!!
smile.gif
natduncan
Thanks Hali and butternut
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